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Ex Parte Meeting for Proposed Rule 75 FR 80174

  • Title:
    Definitions Meeting with Vitol

    Ex Parte No: 178
    Date: 5/11/2011

    Meeting Date:

    Wednesday, May 11, 2011

    CFTC Staff:

    Dan Berkovitz
    Terry Arbit
    Mark Fajfar
    Julian Hammar
    David Aron
    Lee Ann Duffy

    Organization(s):

    Vitol, Inc.

    External Attendees:

    Ron Oppenheimer (Vitol, Inc.)

    Additional Information:

    The meeting discussed the definition of hedging and mitigating commercial risk in connection with the definition of major swap participant (MSP), in particular focusing on the distinction between using swaps to hedge commercial risk and for speculation, investment or trading.  Vitol sought clarification of a sentence in footnote 128 of the proposing release which states that “Swap positions that hedge other positions that themselves are held for the purpose of speculation or trading are also speculative or trading positions.”  Vitol said the rule should clarify this distinction, and clarify how different types of swaps would be treated, when the swap relates to a physical commodity that the swap user produces, manufactures, processes or merchandises.  Vitol said the rule should clarify whether a swap that qualifies as bona fide hedging under the CFTC’s rules could be excluded from the definition of hedging commercial risk if the swap were found to have a speculative, investment or trading purpose.

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